not the forum for this but...

1lowcab · Post by **1lowcab** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 11:46 pm

i want to know what i need for a 10.1 brake conversion for my cabby. the rotors (duh) the calipers (duh again) but do i need the carriers, and if i do where can i get them, i know off of a 16v scirocco but does anybody sell them new. i'm thinking i can piece it together cheaper then i can buy a kit....but i'm probably wrong!

Post by **Calimus** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 10:46 am

No, it's usually cheaper to peice it together. You will need the carriers, and you will also need to replace your master cylinder and use the 16v prop-valves if you are going to do this right and not have to worry about some blowing out down the line.

VWoA Dealers want almost $250 just for the carriers to the 16v style breaks so don't go there. I would suggest checking e-bay and the scirocco classifieds on VWvortex for all the parts you need since they are almost always up for grabs in those places.

1lowcab · Post by **1lowcab** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:38 am

yeah, i did some reading up on the 10.1 brakes, seems like a pretty easy swap! i found a few guys selling them also...so hopefully soon i'll have them. for the back i want to put late model mk2 jetta drums, there 200mm and the stock cabby is 180mm, plus everybody says they bolt up.

fuzzie · Post by **fuzzie** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 1:53 am

The brakes off Audi 4000 and GT work as well. If I remember 85 is the earliest you can go. I got mine off an 86 GT. They bolted right up, easy as pie.

Jeff

1lowcab · Post by **1lowcab** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 9:49 am

did it brake any better with the bigger drums?

fuzzie · Post by **fuzzie** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 6:33 pm

ya, a bit better. would get a better responce with a better pad, i just got some average ones. Is it worth it? I would say if you like the extra speed options, then you'll want this upgrade. For a stock bunny it's not that important.

I haven't upgraded my Master Cylinder either, so I have a more travel then I used to. The Master Cylinder in my opinion isn't necessary, but it would probly give you super tight brakes. I may or may not do this upgrade, mostly depending on if I keep with 14" rims or go back to 13's.

Jeff

Post by **SoCal_Cabby** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:35 am

1lowcab wrote:did it brake any better with the bigger drums?

why would you go through the trouble of getting bigger drums? if your gonna be tearing it apart anyway you might as well swap some discs on there

Post by **Calimus** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 12:02 pm

You might as well switch to rear disc as well and get the proper master along with the proper prop-valves. As you car keeps looking better, you might want to be able to stop long before you hit anything. I'd hate to see post about your car looking the the one in my garage.

Post by **SoCal_Cabby** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:40 pm

that was MY point

1lowcab · Post by **1lowcab** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:32 am

well, i'v talked to a few guys about this and they said the same thing as fuzzie said, it's a LOT easier + cheaper then doing the disk swap, pretty much plug and play!
i think with 10.1s up front and 200mm rears it should stop pretty darn quick. but the whole brake thing won't be done for awhile, getting that automatic out is more important!!

Post by **Calimus** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 11:26 am

Do what ya like, I just hate rear drum. Too many damn parts to keep track of when doing a brake change. I like the idea of remove one bolt, loosen the other, flip the caliper back, remove pads, drop in new pads, squeez piston back, flip the caliper back down, tighten bolts and be done with it.

1lowcab · Post by **1lowcab** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 11:35 am

don't get me wrong, rear disks RULE!!!

Post by **Calimus** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 5:00 pm

actually, I might have an entire rear setup going to waste. I'll have to check.

1lowcab · Post by **1lowcab** » Tue Dec 23, 2003 12:22 am

i got dibs!!!!!

if i could find a rear disk setup for a good price it would definitely go on the cabby!!!!!!!

black_cabbie · Post by **black_cabbie** » Tue Dec 23, 2003 12:08 pm

1lowcab wrote:i got dibs!!!!!
if i could find a rear disk setup for a good price it would definitely go on the cabby!!!!!!!

I did this swap on my old cabbie... Got the rear beam from a 16V Golf 2 and handbrake cables from a scirocco 16V. They mqde a HUGE difference. Then I upgrades the front brakes to 280mm using caliper spacers and G60 rotors! THAT WAS THE ULTIMATE!!!!! I once had top brake like crazy from 200+km and the car felt so secure and stopped with absolutely no fading. I am still using the standard master cylinder and servo as its quite up to the job......

The caliper spacers are pretty easy to fabricate yourself if you have the right tools and the right material....And its very cheap compared to the 256mm (10.1) setup.