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Replace starter

Post by bfrey003 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:23 am

not sure what category this really goes under, but here goes. I need to replace the starter on my 91 carat. doesnt seem to be a hard find as all the major shops carry them. my only problem is which one. i have an automatic so that part's easy, but then it denotes that one starter uses the old style flywheel and another starter used the revised flywheel. I have no idea what is on the car and cant find anything on here about the flywheel other than removing it. here are the two starters i'm looking at:

older style: http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp ... rm=starter

revised style: http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp ... rm=starter

Any thoughts??

thanks, ben
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Re: Replace starter

Post by Hoppy » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:19 am

Typically starters as well as most other parts from these stores are not 100% reliable or made to last anymore they are made in china, but if you do go that route get one with a lifetime warranty.
eg http://www.oreillyauto.com
I dont know where Bosch starters are made anymore but maybe look into it.
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Re: Replace starter

Post by Briano1234 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:05 pm

On a 91 you should have the new style of flex plate, it really isn't called a flywheel on a auto.
The differences are that the older style is a solid piece, where the newer style has 3 spokes.

To remove and replace


To Remove the Starter

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Disconnect the BATTERY Failure to do so will have SHOCKING RESULTS.

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Jack the car and support it with jack stands or ramps.

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Remove the 2 starter brackets Soak the nuts on the heat shield with PB-Blaster….
3 10mm nuts one 10mm bolt and a 13mm on the block. Two nuts on the starter, one on the upper
heat shield and one bolt to the left of the heat shield bottom

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Remove the wires from the starter there is one 13 mm Nut and a spad connector, take them off before you remove the
Starter from the car.

To remove the starter it takes a 13mm . You will need a short 6pt socket
and a wobble extension to remove the middle starter bolt as it is holding
the heat shield…

You will need 2 or 3 6 inch extensions to remove the upper bolt…. The very top one is hidden…

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Installations is the reverse of removal.... but catch the lower bolt then put the heat shield on and tighten that bolt.

Removing the passenger side tire and using about 3 feet of extensions help to get the top bolt.
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Re: Replace starter

Post by bfrey003 » Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:58 pm

awesome. thanks for all the info!!!!!
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Re: Replace starter

Post by Briano1234 » Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:31 pm

Oh, I forgot, Hang the starter by the lower bolt.
Then place the back bracket on the block and the 2 nuts loosley on the starter that way you can use 2 hands at that point to finish getting the bolts in. Then remove the bracket and finish it......

When I replace the heat shield I usually get it in place, then for that and the "hidden" bolt I Tape those to the socket, and tape the socket to the extension...
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Re: Replace starter

Post by JonnyHen » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:42 pm

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Disconnect the BATTERY Failure to do so will have SHOCKING RESULTS.

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Definitely dont forget to do this. I was rushing a few weeks ago and found out the hard way... :banghead:

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Re: Replace starter

Post by Mhebb123 » Sun May 03, 2015 12:03 am

Can anyone give me the specs on the starter bolts? My lower left is missing

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Re: Replace starter

Post by Briano1234 » Sun May 03, 2015 9:09 am

Mhebb123 wrote:Can anyone give me the specs on the starter bolts? My lower left is missing
Automatic, or manual? There is a difference, and Depending on which style all the bolts are on the left for a Automatic, and on the Right for a manual.

Manual
N 0447601
allen key head bolt M10X135

N 0447421 allen key head boltM10X150

Regular hex headed bolts can be substituted, be sure they are grade 8, or 10.

The Automatic uses 3 small 13mm headed bolts that are about 1 1/2 to 2 inches long. I can't find the part number for you but they are a common bolt similar to the Starter rear lower y mount that bolts to the block. Same pitch that is.
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