not sure where to post this...but i need friends to listen

maushaus · Post by **maushaus** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:21 pm

as many of you know, owning a cabriolet is a love/hate relationship---lots of blood, sweat, and tears...i, like many of you, have done most of the work on my car myself...when someone else did the work, it was usually my son or my husband...i have saved for parts, thought out every modification and i suppose i will always be far from finished...

like many weekends, this weekend we took her to a show...show and go in new jersey...i never expect to win there, because they have only two classes where she can go and neither really "fit" her...one is cabriolet mod, where most have engine or other major mods---or stock 85 to 98, which groups her with many newer, fancier dubs...i just go to talk to people and have people stop and look at her which is the most fun anyway...

however this weekend my pride was hurt a bit, and i felt like the judge knew nothing about vintage vw's...he asked me very little about the car---scoffed at my rabbit badge, saying "you can't consider this a rabbit, it has a soft top"...he groaned at her 8V engine and let me know i had lots more to do before she was worthy of a serious look, then walked away...

i never expected to win, the cars in my class out-classed me easily, they were quite beautiful...however, having judged at waterfest and other shows myself, i don't think it is necessary to insult a car and their owner...

thanks for giving me a place to rant...this really is not like me, but i was feeling a bit sad...

peace, kelly

Post by **Briano1234** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:31 pm

Well what can I say to tell you that we still love your car....I am sorry the judges are such an ass. Most are Air cooled folks that can't see past the ends of thier noses.

Don't wory it is better to rant here than go postal elsewheres.

CalAltaDubber · Post by **CalAltaDubber** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:32 pm

Well Kelly, based on what you said, the judge didn't have a clue what he was talking about. The Cabriolet is a modified MK I Golf (Rabbit in the US) and certainly older ones (pre '85) do have the Rabbit badge for that very reason.

Second, when a judge makes remarks like that, they are either biased or just plain ignorant! Either way not really qualified to judge.

Having said that, it is to late to have the judging redone. But I certainly would write a complaint to the show organizers explaining your point of view. By doing this the organizers will respond to you, but more importantly, they will think twice before asking that individual to judge again.

Post by **kuklaki** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:08 pm

I am sorry that you had someone so ignorant judge your car. I've seen and admired photos of the maushaus-all of your hard work definately shows. Dont let his bone-headedness make you feel bad. We should all be so lucky to have a Rabbit (yes! R-A-B-B-I-T, you asshat judge) as clean as yours.

I agree that you should send feedback to the organizers of the show. The judge's job is not to make rude remarks about the entrants in the show. I dont care what the condition of the car is in, it deserves respect-whether it is in progress, beautifully stock, or modified. But comments like his are uncalled for as a representative of the show, and the organizers should know about it. If he doesnt know about the category he is judging, he has no business doing it.

Your Cabbit is A-1 in my book!!!

RydnShotgun · Post by **RydnShotgun** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:10 pm

Sorry to hear about this. definitely complain to the show organizers...

it seems to me that this type of thing is becoming more common at these larger shows. pretty much everyone that i talk to has negative feelings toward the judging, and as a result people with some really show worthy cars are shying away from entering. This year at H2O they did a public call out for judges... which meant that any asshole could be a judge of something that they potentially know nothing about. and the lack of knowledge showed. one of my friends was entered, and when the judge came around he clearly knew nothing about modified VW's. this car has a lot of custom body work and engine mods that went completely unnoticed... but the judge did notice that the headliner was a little bit dirty, which is probably what cost him first place.

maushaus · Post by **maushaus** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:51 pm

first, i love this forum...

second, i thank you for the kind words and support...i really needed to off-load, and am feeling a bit better now...

i feel respect and admiration for anyone who restores, builds, modifies, drives etc. one of these cars...regardless of how i feel about their project artistically... i can't expect everyone to feel the same way...

perhaps tonight i will send an email to the show organizers...

thank you again,
peace, kelly

kamzcab86 · Post by **kamzcab86** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:54 pm

That's outrageous!! Judges like that need to be a taught a lesson: a VW lesson and then hanged in the nearest public square (okay, maybe that one is a bit over the edge). You can't be a fair judge in a car show if you know NOTHING about the very damn cars you're "hired" to be judging!!! I'm usually a quiet person, but I guarantee you that if that motard had said those things to me, he would've received an ear-full.

I agree with everyone else: Make a very loud statement to the event organizers. Hell, if there's an official thread/section on Vortex for the event, do it there too. There's nothing worse than public humiliation and there are probably quite a few others out there who were treated the same way.

Whether she wins awards or not, the maushaus is definitely a winner in my book!

Caddycabby · Post by **Caddycabby** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:18 pm

Dang, stupid people suck

my two cents

maushaus · Post by **maushaus** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:07 pm

Caddycabby wrote: stupid people suck

sad, but true...

maushaus · Post by **maushaus** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:25 pm

had to post this!!!
this is a photo of the judge for my class...hope he isn't related to anyone here...he is the dancer in the center!!!

peace, kelly

Post by **Calimus** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:28 pm

That says it all. He's a wanna be Audi tech, they have no respect for the VW side of the family

kamzcab86 · Post by **kamzcab86** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:29 pm

Well, that certainly explains a whooooooooole lot: A) Youngster who doesn't know his history (strike 1), B) Audi "tech" (strike 2), C) looks like he'd prefer to be hangin' with his homies at the local break-dance joint than be at a car show (steee-rike 3, he's OUT).

CalAltaDubber · Post by **CalAltaDubber** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:25 pm

Please, Please, I don't like the term "Audi Tech".

The term Tech infers that he knows something.

Call him an Audi Fan, Audi Lover, anything but Tech or Technician.

Post by **Calimus** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:53 am

Remember, I said he was a wannabe

kamzcab86 · Post by **kamzcab86** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:32 am

And I said "tech", not tech.