Stress Bars a must!

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Stress Bars a must!

Post by fuzzie » Tue Apr 01, 2003 5:25 pm

Installed a lower 4 point stress bar from ABD a couple of weeks ago.
It's amazing! The flex in the front end is almost all gone!
I suggest anyone who likes a good feeling corner to get one of these!!

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Post by Calimus » Thu Apr 03, 2003 1:59 pm

It the ABD kit the 4pt lower sub-frame or basicly like a K-bar for the stock 16v Scirocco's? I've though about chucking a 4pt subframe under my rocco after I get time to do some engine work and a spare K-bar could easily find it's way onto my wifes cabby.

If you haven't already, add an upper strut tie bar to your bunneh and kiss about 98% of any flex goodbye.
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Post by fuzzie » Sat Apr 05, 2003 1:40 am

The middle one is the one i got. It bolts to the A-arms and must drill holes into the subframe to bolt there. I do plan to add an upper, but that will be down the road.

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Post by Calimus » Sun Apr 06, 2003 12:29 am

ok thats the "K" bar. Those are standard on A1 chassis 16v cars. But you add that to any A1 car + a upper strut tie bar and you have a rock solid front end and lots of cornering fun.
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Post by 1lowcab » Sat May 03, 2003 12:14 am

i have an autotech upper strut bar and a 4pt lower bar but you know what, a 4pt lower doesn't fit an automatic car :x
thats ok, i'll be doing my auto to 5spd swap soon! bwhahahah!!
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Post by fuzzie » Sat May 03, 2003 7:43 pm

ya, auto VW's suck in my opinion. well, ok, ALL auto's suck :)

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Post by 1lowcab » Sat May 03, 2003 9:27 pm

i HATE automatics!!! i feel that if you can't drive a stick DON'T DRIVE!
but i guess thats kinda harsh.....
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Post by fuzzie » Sun May 04, 2003 8:47 pm

a bit harsh but i pretty much agree. Exams should be on sticks, after that it doesn't matter much.

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Post by SoCal_Cabby » Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:30 pm

so prettymuch i can leave the rear alone and just install the front upper and lower?

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Post by SoCal_Cabby » Thu Dec 11, 2003 7:05 pm

well?

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Post by Calimus » Fri Dec 12, 2003 2:15 am

you can get away with leaving the rear alone, but it will be a weak point. The rear is naturally a bit stiffer since you have basicly a solid rear axle. Granted it's shaped like a big U but it's a solid piece. Adding an real functioning rear lower sway bar is a big help, the factory sway bar doesn't do a thing except at weight to the car. Pic up a 24~28mm Nuspeed rear sway and get a noticable difference. Just as an FYI, the reason the factory sway doesn't do anything is that is stops before a major bend in the rear control arm. So basicly, it's not adding any strength to a serious weekpoint.
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Post by SoCal_Cabby » Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:50 am

i plan on doing sways in the front and rear, i was referring to the stress bars

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Post by Calimus » Fri Dec 12, 2003 12:33 pm

My point was basicly, you don't need an upper rear stress bar if you add the rear sway bar. That is unless you want to Auto-X the car.

Cabbies are stiffer in the rear from the factory due to all the reinformcement needed for the convertable top. So unless you just wanting some braggin rights, there isn't much need for a rear upper stress bar.
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Post by SoCal_Cabby » Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:36 am

that's what i was thinking

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Post by sixsracing » Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:21 am

If you ever want to drive an impressive automatic, try any of the new 2000 and up Audi's with the sportshift auto. Really cool. Any of the 928's will also impress.
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